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GA 031 | Applying Lean Within the State of Washington with Hollie Jensen and Darrell Damron

By Ron Pereira Updated on April 13th, 2026

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This week our guests are Hollie Jensen and Darrell Damron.

Both Hollie and Dan work in the Washington State Governor’s Office implementing lean practices and serving as overall continuous improvement advocates.

I think you’ll find it really interesting to hear some of the many ways lean can be used beyond the private sector.

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In this episode you’ll learn:

  • Darrell and Hollie’s backgrounds (1:40)
  • The quotes that inspire Hollie and Dan (7:26)
  • How Results Washington is helping the state government adopt lean methodologies (9:40)
  • How working in the private sector is and is not that different from government work, in Hollie’s experience (13:26)
  • Which lean strategies have been helpful in implementing lean in the government (15:47)
  • What the Lean Fellowship program is all about (18:34)
  • How other states are pursuing lean journeys (20:38)
  • Some concrete examples of how lean is revolutionizing the Washington government (22:58)
  • What “Respect for People” means to Hollie (28:05)
  • The best advice Darrell has ever received (28:46)
  • Hollie’s personal productivity habit (30:04)
  • Darrell’s final words of wisdom (34:34)

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What Do You Think?

What other ways does lean apply to government? Have you seen evidence of lean in your city, state, or country?


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