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GA 547 | Doing Lean vs. Using Lean with Gregg Miner

Avatar photo By Jessica Bush Updated on May 11th, 2026

This week’s guest is Gregg Miner. Ron and Gregg discussed the difference between “doing” lean and “using” lean, how this applies to leaders, the true definition of lean, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download here.

In this episode you’ll learn: 

  • The quote that inspires Greg (2:23)
  • His background (5:07)
  • What it means to “do” lean (6:28)
  • What lean is (8:54)
  • Why people fall into the trap of “doing” lean (10:13)
  • Why it’s so important for leaders to know the difference (13:10)
  • How to “use” lean (19:06)
  • Why lean is more operationally focused (22:52)

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Jessica Bush

Jessica is responsible for the editorial aspects of Gemba Academy’s content, focusing on course materials, podcast production, social media, and other copywriting efforts. An avid advocate of entrepreneurship, Jessica has worked with two technology startups as co-founder and head marketing strategist. Jessica received her BS in Business Administration from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, with a minor in Music.

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