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GA 610 | Lean and AI in the Legal Field with Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland

Avatar photo By Jessica Bush Updated on December 10th, 2025

This week’s guests are Heather Underwood and Adam Marsland. Ron, Heather, and Adam discussed how lean is being applied in legal settings, the status quo when it comes to AI, what the future might look like, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download here.

In this episode you’ll learn: 

  • The quotes that inspire Heather and Adam (3:44)
  • Their backgrounds (5:37)
  • The role of lean (7:36)
  • Examples of using lean in a legal setting (10:20)
  • What they’re learning (13:01)
  • The future of AI and its effect on humanity (17:38)
  • Challenges as it relates to lean and AI (19:14)
  • What things will look like in five years (24:52)
  • The adoption of lean in the legal industry (27:01)
  • Moving from control to curiosity (29:10)
  • Their final words of wisdom (33:33)

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Jessica Bush

Jessica is responsible for the editorial aspects of Gemba Academy’s content, focusing on course materials, podcast production, social media, and other copywriting efforts. An avid advocate of entrepreneurship, Jessica has worked with two technology startups as co-founder and head marketing strategist. Jessica received her BS in Business Administration from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, with a minor in Music.

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