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GA 620 | Is Your Lean Operating System Talking or Singing? with Royden Johnson

Avatar photo By Jessica Bush Updated on February 19th, 2026

This week’s guest is Royden Johnson. Ron and Royden discussed the concept of a lean operating system talking versus singing, the different phases of the operating system, and more. An MP3 audio version of this episode is available for download here.

In this episode you’ll learn: 

  • The quote Royden likes (2:49)
  • Royden’s background (4:08)
  • Whether your lean operating system is talking or singing (12:53)
  • Phase 1: Stabilize (16:27)
  • Phase 2: Standardization (22:57)
  • Phase 3: Continuous Improvement (28:44)
  • A summary of the operating system (30:43)
  • Royden’s final words of wisdom (35:48)

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Jessica Bush

Jessica is responsible for the editorial aspects of Gemba Academy’s content, focusing on course materials, podcast production, social media, and other copywriting efforts. An avid advocate of entrepreneurship, Jessica has worked with two technology startups as co-founder and head marketing strategist. Jessica received her BS in Business Administration from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, with a minor in Music.

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